Our latest uncut episode, (YES uncut I was going to edit the first part but it shows to much of our personality not too.) Featuring Sarah Beth Lewis, or as she's now known, SB the Queen. Our conversation meanders through the avenues of her ongoing music career, stopping at the crossroads of life and her and Smo's food trailer they are opening.
We pull back the curtain on our latest ventures. Embracing authenticity, we ponder the emotional rollercoaster of grief and joy, and how saying "no" has allowed us to dance more intimately with our true passions. SB the Queen and I also toss around the rigors of the music industry, the peculiar aversions that unite and separate us, and the intricate choreography of nurturing partnerships that bolster both life and art.
Rounding off our symposium, we delve into the genesis of Big Smo Inc, and the upcoming launch of the Smolicious Mobile Eatery, which embodies their shared commitment to a healthful lifestyle. This episode is not merely a conversation; it's an odyssey through personal discovery, the harmonization of food with living, and the valor of redefining traditional concepts. We raise our voices in a duet that celebrates the growth in media, the navigation of social dynamics with grace, and the fusion of love's tender energies, all while hoping our mics caught every resonant note of this enriching dialogue.
Our latest uncut episode, (YES uncut I was going to edit the first part but it shows to much of our personality not too.) Featuring Sarah Beth Lewis, or as she's now known, SB the Queen. Our conversation meanders through the avenues of her ongoing music career, stopping at the crossroads of life and her and Smo's food trailer they are opening.
We pull back the curtain on our latest ventures. Embracing authenticity, we ponder the emotional rollercoaster of grief and joy, and how saying "no" has allowed us to dance more intimately with our true passions. SB the Queen and I also toss around the rigors of the music industry, the peculiar aversions that unite and separate us, and the intricate choreography of nurturing partnerships that bolster both life and art.
Rounding off our symposium, we delve into the genesis of Big Smo Inc, and the upcoming launch of the Smolicious Mobile Eatery, which embodies their shared commitment to a healthful lifestyle. This episode is not merely a conversation; it's an odyssey through personal discovery, the harmonization of food with living, and the valor of redefining traditional concepts. We raise our voices in a duet that celebrates the growth in media, the navigation of social dynamics with grace, and the fusion of love's tender energies, all while hoping our mics caught every resonant note of this enriching dialogue.
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Speaker 1:Oh look, you're a Stanley girl, I'm a towel gal Towel, gal Stanley, and towel Towel-y, towel-y, we're towel-y. It's so cool.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, let's get this show going girl, it's so good to see you again. It's so good to see you. I was listening to the old episode on the way over here and I was like what I would tell that sound.
Speaker 1:We grew so much. We grew so much.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's what? 15 months, if we want to count specifically.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like those people that count their baby's age. It's been a minute.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:For sure, it is not raining or the wind blowing today, which is amazing.
Speaker 2:I don't hear an invisible train.
Speaker 1:No, exactly Exactly. So I'm going to do a cut right quick to get us like the welcome to the okay Awesome. So hello everyone, welcome, fix the mic. Welcome to the Unstoppable Podcast. I have a repeat guest, my first ever repeat guest, because I love her so much Sarah Beth Lewis in the house SB the Queen.
Speaker 2:Back again, back again, back again. Hey guys, yeah, I wasn't even SB the Queen last year. You wasn't, I was just Sarah Beth Lewis. I know, I didn't even know I had this other you identified as SB the Queen. Yeah, this other. You identified as Espy the Queen. Yeah, this other. Yes, I identify as Espy the Queen. I did not, I didn't give myself that name. However, there have been a few instances throughout my personal history, like my students used to call me the Shade Queen the Shade Queen, which I think was funny, and then, you know, sm smose the king of the country.
Speaker 1:So it just, it just was it worked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you had a lot of people call me espy you know, sarah beth is just so much after so long that it would just be espy and so espy, the queen just yeah, I think I think I got you as espy on my phone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, on my, yeah. So that's guys. I'm telling you, if you haven't checked out our first episode, you've got to go back. It's kind of like watching the sequel of, like Jurassic Park or something Like. You've got to go watch one, two and three to get here, but you're going to see that's a really good episode.
Speaker 2:I have a lot of compliments the way over here and I was like I should listen to this more often and remind myself of some of these own things I have said myself.
Speaker 1:Just like I told you, I gave us a little pep talk this morning with the video. No, that's what I'm like.
Speaker 2:I have to remember what I tell other people self. You know, and I mean just looking at the transpiration of, like you know, maybe there are some relationships that have come and gone in just this 15 months and new people that are in our lives and people that we've just gotten to get closer through this time. I've just been really excited to see what, from living like what we had talked about in that podcast and continuing that journey, like where it's taken me just in this amount of time, Girl, you have blown up, you have blown up.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:I already consider you a larger than life friend because you get it. Your energy is good. Every time I know we're going to hang out, I'm like I could be having a bad day, which I've had. A day before you got here I could be having a bad day and I'm like I know I got some SB time coming today, so we're going to have some fun.
Speaker 2:We just had too much fun, I was thinking about how silly we were acting when we went to Burrow Bowls not too long ago. I have this footage and that's on social media, if you want to go and find it. I have this footage of us at Burrow Bowls and I can see the girls in the background. Like who are these ladies?
Speaker 1:we don't care, you're gonna borrow this.
Speaker 2:I've started to have a little eye water now you're good giggling already. That's all right, yeah, so, um, yeah, I'm so thankful, yeah, about how crazy this past year has been, and I mean it's not been all good. There have been some highs and lows this year but we're gonna get into it, girl, let's, let's dive into all these things so tell me a little bit.
Speaker 1:When they say SB the Queen, if you're just now following her you're missing out, but you know today's the day to start. So how did the music? Because now you've got your music videos out, yeah, You've got your EP going out, yeah.
Speaker 2:Doing singles right now. Yeah, I have a song coming out tomorrow actually.
Speaker 1:I have that on my calendar Called Get Down, get down.
Speaker 2:With Nitty Gritty Greg Roberts. He's so good, he's so good he's so cool. Yeah, so he and Smo have two collabs, the Proud to Be an American song, which is so fun. I love that one and it was shot. The video was shot in Fayetteville with some really good people. We had a great time with that. And then they have Clap your Hands, which we did in Maggie Valley with the J Creek Cloggers and Dance and Boss Kristen Clove, who's out of LA, who does line dancing. She's phenomenal.
Speaker 1:Check her out. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Okay, I like the Clap your.
Speaker 1:Hands, that was so catchy.
Speaker 2:It's so fun. And so in the treatment for the video, nitty Gritty has his dancer, which is Jeb from the JCreek Cloggers, and then Dancing Boss is Smo's kind of like, you know, fighter in this dance-off. And so Kristen and Zeb excuse me team up and fussing against each other and clap your hands, do a little dance-off. So yeah, it was so much fun I got to be the little round one get to be the ring girl.
Speaker 2:Oh, we have added it up that in my in my small career time I've been over 20 music video.
Speaker 1:You're like the seven degrees of Kevin Bacon. Where's Waldo? Oh, where's Waldo. Sp. The Queen made an appearance yet again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we did a video not too terribly long ago and I wore like three different wigs in it, so I'm like three different characters within the one video, girl.
Speaker 1:I love that. That's some good stuff. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:But with Get Down the collaboration came because I have done the songs with Smough. I've recently done my solo release Ball and Chain, which has been a whole other experience. But I knew I wanted to do a collab with an artist that we have worked with and Nitty Gritty has always just been like a big brother to me.
Speaker 2:And so we love a lot of the same things. We have oddly similar background stories even though we are from such different places and times, and it's just really cool that we like the same kind of stuff and we're able to get that sound together. And Smell helped with the writing. The executive producing, josh Bright Productions. I had to wear this today because I owe so much to our producer. He and his wife and their family is so phenomenal and I tell him all the time. He has such incredible patience in me because I'll tell you something just on get down. The yeehaw at the beginning took me like 20 minutes to hit time, you know, because you'll be like yeehaw but you have to do it to a metronome on a click with a this and you know there's been things I've learned about myself in the studio.
Speaker 2:It's not easy, and Josh Bright's Patience, something I challenge. If you are new to the SB movement, go listen to so Muddy, which was my first release.
Speaker 1:I love so, muddy, that's when you were in Texas and filmed that one, right, oh my gosh, you guys had some fun. Let me just talk about being a shade queen.
Speaker 2:You guys have some fun. Let me just talk about speaking of Shade Queen. Just this week, smo receives hate mail of one. It said fake it till you make it, and I feel like that was a very incorrect usage of the expression, but it was like you shouldn't rub mud on you, you should actually get in and get dirty and I'm like well, real life is. We filmed so muddy in a drought in June in Houston, so quite the irony there that it should have been like so dusty, so dry like your personality like your hater yeah, so fake it till you make it.
Speaker 2:Um, we actually did have to fake it to make it muddy because it was a drought in June in Houston and thank you so much. Our Houston Texas chem folk out there. They came out, man, they showed up. Oh, my goodness To know that at any moment I have like the number to a woman that can get me a whole crew of people with all the toys and all the gadgets and all the know how and like.
Speaker 2:Just have a good time like that friendship is so special to me because candace helped me ahead of the video getting ready and then getting that video ready. So yeah, I challenge. Though go listen to my delivery on so muddy and then go listen to Get Down tomorrow, because you're going to be like, oh, you've grown a little.
Speaker 2:You may have found yourself a little, you know, because Josh Bright has been incredibly patient with helping me find my tone and helping me work on my delivery. And it's way different singing in the shower and singing in a little quiet box with a. You know one o'clock ticking and you know everybody kind of people are watching you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and and it's something that I always have this like effective filter builds up that you know, that inner voice gets more powerful than like my ability to perform and you stifle yourself, you know. So I'm able to express to him like I really struggle with this. I really struggle with that when I'm creating sound or, you know, trying to hit certain notes. And I mean he, he's been way more than a producer, he's coached me as a vocal coach.
Speaker 2:That's awesome, though, that's yes and so we're really proud of how get down has turned out from from where we started and all the things in between, because you know we did so muddy. Then we did country till I die in that video. We we talked in the old episode about pleasing our inner child. Yes, let me tell you, my 10 year old self is like completely fulfilled knowing that country.
Speaker 1:It was so fun I remember you're like hey, hey, it's out, and I'm like I watched it, I was like, okay, I'm with the movie, I know.
Speaker 2:I'm like can we do the whole thing? Can we do the whole thing? Yeah, so this moment I have we are in the beginning We've got at least a novel written. It's not in its entirety, but we have like the whole premise and everything of a cinematic experience like a movie that we've written a horror film. That, because we're both big horror fans, we love cinema, we love being on camera too, and so Country Till I Die was kind of us, like dipping our toe into what it would be like if we did the whole movie.
Speaker 1:And it was so fun to get to be like because I'm the news at the beginning it's like the news article of it, so it's fun to get to be like cause I'm the news. At the beginning it was like the news article that, so it was fun to get to like.
Speaker 2:Just be a voice, you know, like a voiceover. That's cool. Josh produced that one too. Oh, yeah, yes, and it was um, we wrote on that one with D Ray Stevens, songwriter of the year this year. You know, so like to get to be around these people that are doing such great things, you know, and Josh is working with a lot of incredible people and you know, to get to be in this position where I'm meeting with these people, I'm collaborating with them, we're sharing ideas and, you know, sharing that space together. It's been really cool, you know, because so often I've always said, you know, if I were, if I were able to tell my story as a fly on the wall in the studio, because so often I have just been, you know, in the background working on things for Simone and you know, assistant administrative, assistant, physician, so to be in this artist chair with him, you know I and I'm so thankful I've been very well received. You have I have been incredible. I was worried, you know, and there's always like a handful.
Speaker 1:A handful compared to the million I mean.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you, you know, haters are my motivators because, like, they'll make me mad and I have to like re-go, use that energy. But I am entirely more motivated knowing that there are people trying to watch me because they want to see me win and they want to see us succeed and they're proud of us, like I've gotten so much more motivation now leaning into you know, our fans are our motivators. And the haters man they're so cool and the people. We went to florida this weekend. We had a show in florida and, like now, I'm on stage the whole performance.
Speaker 2:I perform my song to open up smo show you know, like, yeah, just weird things that have not happened before in in our timeline together. And so um, in Florida, you know, getting to see people that I've had this relationship with online because they are my fans, and getting to actually meet these people, you know, it's just been so powerful, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they're so loyal Like I watch you know the comments sections and stuff. I loyal like I watch, you know the comment sections and stuff.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, you have a couple haters, you know, like I said, musty attitude people, but you know the majority of them just love you guys and support so thankful to you because we I, we try so hard to be as available, um, and, you know, within the limitations that we talk about of having boundaries that you have to have for your mental health and stuff, but we, we share all our information about our lifestyle, about our music, about, you know, our our new business. You know, now I never would have known a community with our kinfolk, because there have been kinfolk that are able to provide things for us. You know, you even give us an avenue and a platform to get to share our story Absolutely, and so that network that we have among the following, you know, some of them have turned into family and so it's so cool to have this experience of like they enjoy our art, they enjoy our lifestyle, but also, you know, for the most part, when people get to spend time with us, just enjoy our company.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm thankful for that, because we try to be so real online that when you meet us this is what you get, you know. So I'm thankful that we try really hard to at least keep that authenticity and availability to people. And you do a good job with that too Well, and I want everyone to know that anyone can be whoever they want to be.
Speaker 1:You are the prime example I want to hit on that for a second of living in the abundance mindset.
Speaker 2:Because I have lived in the famine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, cause I have lived.
Speaker 2:I have lived in the famine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but the thing is, though, like I mean me and you, like you know I can I can. Like you said family, I consider you family now Cause we have been so close and being in our best friendship is one of those that we can be busy and go a month without seeing each other. You're on tour and I'm running around and doing events and podcasts, and then we're like hey, are you okay? Or send a funny meme.
Speaker 2:It's always like look at this on Instagram. This is yeah, so, but, but that?
Speaker 1:that, to me, is aligning yourself with the right people. Yeah, and I think why we hit off in our friendship is because you're so authentic and you're so real and you're just. It's just easy that you. You know we talked about before our last podcast there's energy suckers and drainers and they exist and they're out there and sometimes that's keeping you from like expanding to the next level. I'm looking at the camera because I'm talking to you guys, because it's true, like it's because they're there. They're there, I mean, they're there because and sometimes there's even energy sucking.
Speaker 2:Circumstances like because, looking at like the last episode to this episode, when we did that last episode, john's mom had not passed away yet and she was very sick.
Speaker 2:And so the grief that we went through this past year and to be on the other side of that experience and how much you grow from that because you know you take care of someone so much and then you lose that relationship.
Speaker 2:You know it take care of someone so much and then you lose that relationship. You know it's tough, but there's also been a freedom of we feel so blessed to know that she's no longer suffering and we get to live in that faith that we'll see her again. So, having that freedom to move forward, you know, and live a life now with a responsibility that has that season has changed, you know, and we don't have that responsibility anymore. Looking back to that episode and going, wow, I was like drowning in the midst of about to lose my mother-in-law, you know, and like it was. And now, looking at it, just like the grief peeled back and everything of like, wow, I'm okay, like I knew what was coming then and I was so worried. And now I'm like, oh, you know now there's just such a a joy for her to be free of her suffering that we had experienced.
Speaker 1:You know that you said something. I wish we had the max hot before we were talking.
Speaker 1:Well, actually I don't because, yeah, but, but you said something in it and I want to write it down in my little motivational book because it's stood out. You know, you said it's like you know, just because you're positive all the time and you have to be positive doesn't mean that you don't have unpositive situations that happen, yeah, because you know, like today, like just a little bit, like I had an engine blow up yesterday and things like that, and so I told her I gosh, I feel like all I've done is dump on you since you've been here. But she's a friend and that's what we do. We talk about the good, the bad, the ugly together. But you stopping and saying that gave me permission to be in my feelings for a minute.
Speaker 2:And you have to, because it's not fair to expect that, just because you try to do right things all the time, to expect everything to go right and, um, because that expectation that everything will go right typically is what causes the disappointment. I mean, if you expect it's always going to be bad, um, but there there is a reassurance of you have to be allowed to feel those feelings. It's just how you react. Absolutely, you know, we were headed headed to florida this past weekend. We hit a mud flat before we even made it to chattanooga and and so it's like we just made it over the mountain but we hadn't made it to the city and had knocked the alignment out on the van.
Speaker 2:And you find yourself falling into this like why, me, if only this? And you know, and we ended up having like a really cool afternoon in Chattanooga, and it was unplanned and unexpected, and, yeah, we didn't get to Florida until 3am, but everything still happened. It happened for a reason, you know, and I just have to yeah, I have to sit back and trust that. You know, and we tried our hardest during those moments to not fuss at each other and to not point blame and to not wallow in how angry we were that our plans had been derailed.
Speaker 2:But like that was the plan, because that's what happened exactly and it's all how we chose to react to that. You know, and I'm guilty, I was kind of like you know, but I was also the one that hit it, so I was like they're all gonna be like this girl driving the car. I'm so thankful these men, they love me driving them around. They joke that I'm like their old school bus driver.
Speaker 2:But but the people on the internet, so much yeah right yeah, but you, you do have bad things happen to you, um, when you're a good person, but it's how you choose to react to those around you especially you know, and yourself. Like you have to treat yourself with some grace. You got to you're not perfect.
Speaker 1:No, and that's the thing. Like guys listen to what she's saying here you can have an abundance mindset. To grow the next level, you have to have an abundance mindset Absolutely. But that doesn't mean that bad things aren't going to happen. It's only the first one.
Speaker 2:It's only the first one.
Speaker 1:We've said absolutely like 20 times, me and her together.
Speaker 2:If you're looking for a good drinking game, go watch to catch up on your water hydration. Go watch the last episode and go watch the last episode, and every time I say absolutely, you will have your whole water intake for the week.
Speaker 1:I was like yes.
Speaker 2:I was on the local on 2, I was on television and I told myself this is my first ever television appearance. I tell myself, I say do not say it. And then I watch the replay and of course, absolutely, I screamed when I watched the replay. And of course, absolutely, I screamed when I watched it. I was like no, you said it.
Speaker 1:I'm sure it wasn't as set out as we thought it was. You know why it's funny?
Speaker 2:because I grew up watching Pee Wee's Playhouse. We're going to have a word of the day. Every time I say absolutely everybody.
Speaker 1:Jump out and scream who thinks she needs to make a swag shirt. It's absolutely SB.
Speaker 2:Absolutely SB the queen Love it.
Speaker 1:That's so funny you go into so much, going on, so much happening Before we transition real quick. I want to say this cause this was something that this was hit on, because we want to talk about you, uh, in what your career is, but we both believe in pouring into others too, so so this is one thing that I heard on the way over here. Uh, Tim Grover, I've actually, uh, he trained, he coached Michael Jackson and he coached.
Speaker 1:You know all the, all, the, some of the greats in the sports industry and he was speaking this morning and I've got to see him backstage and Sherry, his right-hand woman, and love both of them, and he said something that stuck to me that said dig deep. Sometimes, you know, when they go to build a skyscraper, you know they don't start at the top and they don't start up here at the foundation. They dig down at the bottom and the pits and they dig and they build up that way and sometimes, if you're finding yourself, if you're listening to us today and you're like y'all are talking about abundance, mindset and your year has changed for the best and all this stuff, like I said, we've all went through it. We just choose not to stay in it, to keep digging and keep building, and that's when the abundance hits.
Speaker 1:So, so if you take anything away from what we're saying, please take that If you're in a moment, right now, life's hard for everybody. Right now, please keep digging, keep digging deep and knowing that maybe you're digging for a reason, maybe God's cleaning things out of your path for you to be able to succeed, or whatever.
Speaker 2:Well, and one of the things that we're really leaning into right now is the power of saying no, you know because for you and it's been something that you know, small for you, and it's been something that you know, smo, if you want to talk about an abundance mindset and believing in anything, you know he he is very good, he's the dreamer and doer at the same time. And you know, we've had this vision of trying to keep all these you know plates spinning and going and everything. And now we've had to step back and say, you know, no, we're not going to tour here, there and yonder anymore, we're going to stay put in this one place and we're going to pour into this one passion. Because we have been so divided with our passions and interests that everything was just getting a little of attention. And now we're trying to give one thing all of our attention and that has taken digging deep. Because you know and we even talked about this on the last episode we love being on stage, we love performing, and to know that you're saying no to something you really love but have found something you love even more, that was the digging deep.
Speaker 2:This time last year we were really digging because smoke had had to take time away from touring and the idea of going back out into it. You know, because our lifestyles are so night and day, from where we're expected to work, oh yeah, absolutely, you know. So, florida this past weekend, um, as wonderful as our kinfolk were and as amazing as the venue was and how great it was to be on stage, we didn't go on until 1030. And, like, smo's usually in the bed at like 730 tops, because he's at the gym by 6am, you know. And we eat a certain way.
Speaker 2:So to have to eat out of a cooler for three days gets challenging after a while. And people are drinking and we don't drink and we can be around it. It just gets exhausting, you know. And when you're in beautiful florida weather, you want to be outside and we're outside people, but we're in a bar all day getting ready for. So there have just been so many things that our vocation is now misaligned with our lifestyle. Yeah, and we have had the. We are blessed enough and Smo has worked very, very hard to be able to be in a position that he said you know, but he's been touring and rapping and everything since 1999.
Speaker 1:I was going to say we grew up with Smo yeah.
Speaker 2:We grew up. I know I do too, even weirder. So it's like you know, like Did she?
Speaker 1:Did I stalk him?
Speaker 2:She did not stalk him.
Speaker 1:y'all, I'm just kidding, only slightly.
Speaker 2:He's aware of all the times he was stoned.
Speaker 1:That's another podcast.
Speaker 2:Oh man. So you know he's been in this industry since 1999. And he's like I'm tired yeah.
Speaker 2:You know and it's even I've even fallen victim to like we've been to some of these places multiple times now to perform, which is awesome, because I love getting to go back to the same places, you know but like I didn't even realize that where we performed Saturday, I was at in 2019. I walked in and I was like, oh, I've been here before, whoa, so I've now been in it for five years and so I've seen a lot of touring as far as what it's like to be on the road and that aspect, and we're ready to step into a position where people know where to find us.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We're not far from our home. We're not far from our old pets, right.
Speaker 2:Because, the pets are old ladies now and you know, even from the podcast last year, we're empty nesters now, I know so like we want to be home. Yeah, exactly yeah. And we've been able to change the house in a position that fits our lifestyle. You know, we've expanded our gym, we now have a studio in our house that we're able to work with and stuff. So saying no and digging deep into the love for our own lifestyle and seeing the need to share it with people and seeing the need to share it with people, because now when we're on tour and we're talking to people, people want to talk about the lifestyle way more than they want to talk about the music.
Speaker 2:That's awesome, and people have seen now the overnight oats recipes more than they have the new releases, you know, and a lot of that has to do with the algorithm and advertising and things like that, but food has been a way for Smo to feel some therapy from some of the things that just aren't good in the music industry.
Speaker 2:Like the music industry, it's exactly what they tell you it is and so that you know when you have to operate in an industry as a light source yourself and protecting your torch, you know, sometimes it's easier to just step away from the wind, and so that's really what Smo's leaned into of. It's easier to be light when you're in light and when you're around light and instead of having to be put in some of these positions and circumstances and places that just aren't aligned with you, know who we are in our value system and our choices anymore. So not to say that it's tempting, but sometimes I am reminded of who I was when I was more into that scene, and sometimes I get embarrassed and I do not want to live in shame because I don't regret anything I did, but I'm reminded sometimes of like, oh, my goodness what was I thinking?
Speaker 1:It's easy to get caught up in it. You know, like I'm not a musician or a rapper. I mean, I write songs but obviously it's it's for my own, it's for my own therapy, not for anybody else's. But you know, like I, I fell into the music industries, helping to promote a few artists along the way, and I and I love it because I'm a huge fan of independent artists. Yes, we have a. We have a ton of independent artists on the everyday Joe show and stuff, and you know and I understand that journey and understanding that.
Speaker 1:And but the one thing that I've realized just by dabbling in the music and when I say dabbling I mean putting in the music industry.
Speaker 2:When I say dabbling, I mean putting my toe in and accidentally put my toe in. I didn't know I was doing it. You weren't seeking it out.
Speaker 1:It found me. I love music so I was like, okay, cool, I was interested. Nashville is a beast man In a good way. It's a beast that can take you and make you great or it can break you.
Speaker 2:We say all the time and this is what Smose says all the time the devil is alive. The devil is alive.
Speaker 1:But there are some wonderful people that I have met there, wonderful producers, wonderful labels, great people.
Speaker 2:Yes, I've been very thankful to only get to be around the good. You have, but that doesn't keep you from hearing about the other.
Speaker 1:You hear about the bad and, like I said, that's just me dabbling in it. So I totally get why you're selective there and why a lot of artists that come on the show are selective and some of them have been really burnt by the industry and, like I said, I'm a huge advocate for music and like. I said independent artists.
Speaker 2:And even people that are signed with labels. I'm a huge advocate for. I think that's great, that you guys have made it and doing things that you're wanting to do and now understanding on the backside what a music label and all of that can can be for the good and for the bad. You know it's I was a teacher too, so I understand like bureaucracy and the trickle down of things and how things are what you wish they would be, but that's just how they are of things and how things aren't what you wish they would be, but that's just how they are, you know. So, like there, there are things I've been able to pull from the different industries I've been in and see power and money are always going to ruin things.
Speaker 1:First of all, you know, I mean look what's been on the news. Now we read earlier on his notes I mean that's a lot going on and then we try to stay out of all that you know because, like I, let people you know do their own thing and you know and pick their path that they want to pick. But I will say that it is very cliquish in some areas and I found that out just by, like I said, just dabbling in it. I can only imagine.
Speaker 2:Talking about the abundance mindset also, is the intention. Like what someone is, what their intention is. I never made music to be rich or famous. There you go, uh, I never. I never got that was what I said. Um, I never got with smo to be rich or famous. Um, it was just one of those things. I just fell in love with who he was as a person and I just saw that as his job. Yeah, you know, um, and I even famous. It's just so silly because people will be like oh you're my famous friend.
Speaker 1:And I'm like I don't know about that.
Speaker 2:But then, like this lady stopped me at Walmart yesterday. She's like are you Smo's wife? I was like yes, yeah.
Speaker 1:Right now, today I am Yesterday, he was just an acquaintance Earlier this morning, earlier this morning.
Speaker 2:I get it, yeah, I was like, yeah, no, I'm definitely Smo's wife, but so to be in a position where I'm recognized, but like I was always recognized either by my people knowing my dad or because I was a teacher, yeah, you know we would joke about who had more paparazzi, miss Lewis or Big Smo at the time, you know, yeah, because we go to walmart and they'd be like that's my Spanish teacher.
Speaker 2:so like being recognized places and stuff, I never have considered that fame, I just considered that being a byproduct of being somewhere too long.
Speaker 1:You have a contagious personality, you know, like they always say when we go places, it's like are y'all running for mayor? No, which is that we love people and y'all love people, and and it's you love to talk, like I love to talk, like obviously we love to talk and I'm real bad about.
Speaker 2:I go to the same places all the time, so I have to speak to the people who are like ultimately I'm going to look incredibly rude If you've waited on me three times this week at Walmart, like I mean, like the grocery store people know us, like we have now made friends at Buckle, like they know us, you know Frenches.
Speaker 2:I go in Frenches, I'm like what's up guys, you know. But all that's been through, any sort of relationship we've made, you know, and I'm a big fan of, and maybe it's just being like old school tradition in me but like, speak to those people. They're at work, Like they're, they're providing a service for you. Just be civil, Um, that's hard enough.
Speaker 1:Don't be a jerk, you know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I've been guilty of like maybe not seeing another human for you know a few hours, and then I'll just talk to the grocery clerk Like they're my best friend.
Speaker 1:They're like grocery clerk, like they're my best friend. That's so funny that that is.
Speaker 2:That's funny when you say that because it is. It is human interaction. That's not that I'm famous, I just go to the same places all the time no, you are, you're making a name for yourself.
Speaker 1:You are and it's like, yeah, when we go places to get you know together, like you know, the burrow bells and stuff like that, they haven't been. You've actually did a music video oh man, tasha's amazing.
Speaker 2:Yes, so, okay. So smells wrote a song for me called something about love, which, if you've peeped the song about love is sar Beth Lewis. Oh, ow See, isn't that so cute? That is so cute. I didn't even catch it, I didn't even catch it, he was clever like that, though he's so sneaky clever. I wish I was that clever. Sometimes he says stuff and I just like die laughing. I'm like why didn't I think of that?
Speaker 1:I was watching y'all's Juicy GC's video. My eyes are watering out who we're laughing at.
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness, where he's rolling up the collared wraps.
Speaker 1:He's just so good.
Speaker 2:Well, and he and Mary Beth are just wild when they get together. She's so funny anyway, and they both have these really charismatic spirits that when they get together they just crack me up. He's so funny, he's so silly. Yeah, that's awesome. I mean we genuinely have a good time together. I think when people are like you need another show, you need another show, I was like, well, just be us getting following around doing normal things.
Speaker 1:I think. I think it would be a must watch because I'm telling you, guys are hilarious y'all. Y'all's energy is good, you vibe off each other good and you're just real people and you don't like, like you said what you see on the line is what you see in person.
Speaker 2:And he's way better on camera than me. He catches me off guard and I'm just like I didn't even know you were about to vote and he's just like I could walk off just any time with the camera and he's ready to go and I'm like, well, I wasn't ready for all this. I told Travis we could retire. If we went on a live sitcom, however, we probably would get ridiculed because your tiktok though your couple's tiktok is really entertaining.
Speaker 1:We gotta do more, but like we like that's just us like people like did y'all skip that? I'm like no, we just remember to turn the camera on no, because it's just our life. It's just our life, yeah, because we just we're like you guys, we have fun together. That we're we would be totally raw in reality. Show like we would be like get up, get off your a double s and do this. Let's go.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, okay, the what I'm struggling with the most if you follow, because I'm I'm big into content creation, I love all the digital media stuff and this dadgum bite who's here for the dadgum bite? If you're watching to smose, if you're following him to real big smoe, who's here for the dadgum bite? Has become his tagline. I don't know how it came out of nowhere. Someone said he stole it from someone else. I was like I don't even know who this someone else has been. Anyway, I hate, I despise the sound of people eating.
Speaker 1:I knew it. I knew it, I was going to ask you that.
Speaker 2:I hate it. We struggle, we have struggled, like last night he was eating an apple. I had had to go in the other room because I and I have read a lot about like that's a normal thing.
Speaker 2:Well, it's like normal for people who are as normal as me, um, to experience that, you know, like cringe, oh it makes you cringe a little bit and he wasn't raised by my mother and my mother wouldn't let people smack or scrape their teeth, or I'm not, you know, and so I just am like this, bewildered, like this heather and eating over here I tell him he reminds me of on beauty and the beast, when the beast is smacking his soup and I mean I love him and he knows that this is something.
Speaker 2:But now it's like I have to film it and there have been a few where I'm just like cut. I'm like I'm sorry, I just can't. I can't take it, you're smacking y'all, this is so funny.
Speaker 1:We have not had this conversation at all. I swear to you, when I watched it, I was like Sarah Beth is slowly dying.
Speaker 2:I know she's like who's here for the bat, who's here for the dadgum bite? And I'm like, okay, I'm ready, go okay I'm high mascaras running.
Speaker 1:That's hilarious.
Speaker 2:I try, I try, I mean like even like he likes watching these eating, competition foods and stuff. And there's even like certain points where I have to turn my head because, like I like, eating is just nasty. If it's not, I would be totally fine eating by myself forever. Like eating is not something that has to be social for me it doesn't?
Speaker 1:it's funny, I'm going into the food business but like sometimes that you do need to get a good ugly eat it's what I call it like you want, you're so hungry and you want to taste it and you just want to be ugly when you eat you know what I mean, like just by myself, so I can smack and not feel like anybody's eating.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's what it is. Maybe it's just my own insecurity is why I hate other people.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I'm kind of like that too, Like I have to. I hear it's way more common in women, it is it is Because women like I think I smack right, I know, I think I do, I think I don't know. I know that my son does and Travis is like at him and I'm like, please don't give him an insecurity about eating. You're getting ready to give him an insecurity about eating? No, I love the kid Megan, but oh my God, it's like he has a microphone times 12.
Speaker 1:And so I get it. But then, Travis, when he eats Rice Krispie Treats, it's like it's like the spoon, it's like are you trying to start a fire over there?
Speaker 2:Like, what are you doing? Oh, we have some wooden bowls that are like. No, I you know, and when you talk about even it's something that we have, like in the past year, been diving into more, I've really been trying to pay attention better to just some things about me that are a little more particular, I think, than most people you know. Um, on a spectrum sense of like, oh well, that really bothers me, but I found, like a whole group of people, that it also bothers, so I feel affirmed. The eating is one um for ball and chain. For the music video, the opening scene, I run my hand down.
Speaker 2:Oh, even talking about it, I just got that feeling like I run my hand on the metal wall outside the barn and like filming it was, like it was torture it was torture.
Speaker 1:I don't like touching metal like that. What about and I want to throw up thinking about this what about? What about wood spains?
Speaker 2:okay, so this wooden bowl at our house we were talking about getting sample smoothie spoons and I was like whatever it is do not let it be those little tongue depressor things. But we have a wooden bowl and he scrapes a spoon over it and I'm just like, wow, that sound gets me so bad?
Speaker 1:why are you in couples therapy? He's eating this wooden spoon. Won't let it go. Did you get spanked with a wooden spoon or something when you were little? I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2:I thought maybe that I was like oh God, it's just something about how it's dry and then it sucks. To you it does it's weird.
Speaker 1:If you have this, you know.
Speaker 2:No, because when I posted I posted it on the SB the Queen page I was like, fyi, this gave me the heebie-jeebies filming this part. Because I grew up with pop-up video. I grew up with VH1, behind the Music. I want to know every little thing that went into making this video. So I was like, yeah, pop-up video, this made me have the heebie-jeebies and I shared it and people were like, yeah, and like construction paper and paper straws and all these, oh, paper straws. I understand what they do for the environment, but if we're not going to eliminate all plastic, why are we isolating just the straws?
Speaker 1:Girl, where was I?
Speaker 2:Oh gosh, I hope we're not getting home.
Speaker 1:I love this place. It was so good and they brought a freaking milkshake out with a paper straw. I'm like how in the world am I supposed to do this and enjoy my milkshake? I did, and I was like I'll be skinny if I have to keep doing this.
Speaker 2:This is crap, Wait, Lost Secrets. Use all paper utensils Paper straws, paper forks.
Speaker 1:Don't come at us. We're all about keeping the environment safe. Don't come at us. We don't want the texture.
Speaker 2:Well, and I mean, if you're not eliminating all plastics.
Speaker 1:I don't know how the straw.
Speaker 2:I mean I do understand straws, specifically their argument, but I would say there are a lot of. I mean I feel guilty every time I get my nails done for the environment, do you? I mean not guilty enough, I quit. But I think about it. I'm like my. That's a lot of waste.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think about that, but that's true. But you know what we're doing.
Speaker 2:I got the we're saving the world one cup at a time. Is yours Tally or Tilly Tally.
Speaker 1:I'm a Tao gal and I'm a Stanley.
Speaker 2:Tao gal and Stanley.
Speaker 1:They have to use the worst vowels for Southern people. They do Especially me Like when I go in, I just learn to lean into it, hey, but I do have the bubba as well, I got bubba and Tao. I'm good to go, sounds like an interview in a trailer park, but anyways, that's good.
Speaker 2:Hey, that's good, that's just fine in that interview. Um, so I you know the digging deep thing talking about that. That's one of the things that we've really been digging deep in is trying to share more of ourselves with people. You know if I am, if I'm out there with him, you know people got to get to know, you know what makes up this partnership.
Speaker 1:So but he supported you and embraced you.
Speaker 2:Oh man, he pushed me, he pushed me because you know, he we've, we've been able to talk so much. You know we're now about to be 10 years together and and so much of getting to know each other in a relationship is reflecting on who you were as a child. And I'm such a firm believer in your inner child has to be healed and you have to be, you have to be fulfilling those wishes and dreams that you had when you were basically untainted. Um, and that's not to say not all of us, you know, some people have had unfortunate experiences young and that's, you know, had some sort of impacts on things. But I remember who I was and and I very much remember the things that gave me joy and the things that motivated me as a child.
Speaker 2:And, um, you know, john sees how I act when I have a microphone. He sees how I act when the beat starts. I've been singing small, small songs. We joke that if anything happened to him I'd go on a do an impersonation tour, but he knows that somewhere deep inside of me there was this joy from performing and he loved seeing his partner feeling joy and if you've ever seen your partner doing something they love, it just makes you so happy. And if you have the same thing that makes you happy and you get to do it together. You know, when we sing Ain't None Free together, there is not a single person in there that's not captivated.
Speaker 1:That's going to be in my head the rest of the night. Yep, I don't know. I don't know. I was thinking that and I'm like, because the kids are in the car right now.
Speaker 2:Dang it, stop it.
Speaker 1:I know, and it's one that you know, it has a wonderful message, but so much truth.
Speaker 2:But it also is a way for us to get to be playful for people, and we get to be playful together and so often in your relationship you don't get to be playful, or the circumstances are like you say, you have so much going on that being playful is not a priority. But being playful is so much of who we are as humans, that's who we are as our spirit. I believe as many references to dancing and singing as there are in the Bible. Our creator wanted us to make noise for him, absolutely. Now, a lot of the noise that I have been making has been for myself, getting it off my chest, uh, getting it out of that creative space, um, and that has been so healing for so many doubts in my mind and so many insecurities and so many resentments and regrets, and like, getting all this music out has really healed a lot of things that I felt were undone.
Speaker 2:I didn't realize I had been, you know, because you say, oh, I'll get around to it, oh, I'll go there one day, oh, I'll do that sometime, you know.
Speaker 2:But I was actually getting on to a point where, like, okay, this, this has to be the time or there will be no time and I think he saw that and he saw that I was really tired of seeing people wasting their opportunities. Smoll has given so many opportunities to people and I have watched so many people and you know I've gotten the trickle down of all the information and the knowledge and I just told him I was like you know, I'm tired of you pouring all your energy and effort into these artists that won't listen to you or choose not to prioritize the things that you've said that'll help their career or advance what they're trying to do. I'm ready like I've been listening all this time I've been. You know I've funded all my own music stuff, so there are a lot of people that there's an insinuation, you know, like, yes, he shares his platform with me, but I'm working as an independent artist as well, you know financially.
Speaker 2:He helps, you know produce yeah, he helps us write, he helps with the production, he's my ear, you know. He's coached me with my tone tone and it's something as a partner. And it's been very tough for me because I'm very indignant and I don't like being told when I'm not good enough. You know that's something that we hear, that we you know. But when someone looks at you and says I know you can do it better and you feel like you're giving it your all, sometimes that can create something if you react to it the wrong way. But I had to look at him, as he knows what I'm capable of. He just also knows I'm just, in my own way, right now and he believes in you too.
Speaker 2:Oh and man, how many times I've been crying and have to walk away and be like that hurts my feelings, but then come back and go, okay, but he's right. I listened to the playback and I'm like, oh, he's so right. And he has such an incredible ear, um, that I listened to the playback and I'm like, oh, he's so right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he has such an incredible ear that I had to trust his guidance, you know, and trust being pushed by my partner, because some people would buck up and shut down to that, and I was very, very tempted to do that, to just be like I don't like being told how to do this. I don't think he's right, you know and do my own. Be like I don't like being told how to do this, I don't think he's right, it's not you know and do my own. And I had to just trust that process that he knew, as an artist, what I needed as a partner, what I was capable of, and he pulled that right out of me and, and you know, couple with people like Josh Bright and his talent and then, um, linking with other people to work with that also see that in me, you know, we've really been able to push each other. Because I believe in his food 100%. Yeah, Like he feeds me all the time, I do that.
Speaker 1:I saw the vibe.
Speaker 2:So I really push him in, like no, that's restaurant quality, I would pay for this. You know all the things and it's oh, you're just my wife. So you that that's restaurant quality, I would pay for this? You know all the things and it's all. You're just, you're just my wife. So you have to say these things. But you know, we really try as hard as we can to play into each other's talents and to push each other in our strengths and to really encourage what we know the other one's capable of. And it's not comfortable.
Speaker 2:No, it is not comfortable at all, um, but oftentimes, and I would say every time on the other side, I'm so thankful that he didn't just, yes, man me and just go. Yep, sounds great. Okay, because I can't even imagine what the cuts of so muddy would have been if I hadn't got to the point that I was like crying and I'm like I'm done with music.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is too hard, but he kept pushing you, not, but he knows how to do it in a way to motivate you, but also, yes, correct what needs to be corrected, but also not discouraging no, no, it's any of the crying and all that comes from me.
Speaker 2:I'm feeling like I'm not good enough and he, yeah, and he always knew and he would.
Speaker 2:There'd be times I would do a cut and he would look through the glass and he'd be like that's it.
Speaker 2:I knew it and and knowing that he has an expectation that he knows I'm capable of and will keep being persistent until I can achieve that, like it takes a lot to have that from your partner and from your husband, but I've been so gracious because I've seen so many people have that same opportunity and same thing and they didn't stick with it. Yeah, and a lot of that was because they didn't get to live with him, you know 100 percent. They didn't get to be as close to him as I am. But I'm very thankful that he decided to take his time and energy and effort and poured into me, because now Big Smoke Inc is my label, so he gets to, you know, act and represent me as a label and he pretty much manages me. Um, on those things, we manage ourselves and our brand and stuff collaboratively. But you know how we've grown as a couple, even just from listening to the podcast this time last year to now to have opened a whole new business with small issues.
Speaker 1:I can't wait small issues mobile eatery whole food, plant-based, oil-free, gluten-free.
Speaker 2:It's so good, and let's just I've opened a whole new business with Smolicious. I can't wait. Smolicious Mobile Eatery. Whole food Plant-based, oil-free, gluten-free.
Speaker 1:It's so good and let's pull a plug for that right quick, because I was going to get that too.
Speaker 2:That's opening soon, oh my gosh, earth Day, earth Day.
Speaker 1:Earth Day 422.
Speaker 2:And it's going to be where 401 North Cannon Boulevard in Shelbyville, tennessee, parked in the Best Way Rent to Own parking lot and ours will be 7 am. We're opening 7 am. We're going to try to go until 5. But if we sell out, I think you will.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I mean, these are the things, those look phenomenal.
Speaker 2:These are the things that I'm having a hard time with. Like I've never opened a restaurant before. I mean it's a food trailer, so I hate to say like restaurant. That's kind of sounds misleading. But you know, like anticipating how much to order and who's going to want blueberry and who's going to want strawberry, or you know, like just little strange things that I'm having to think about ahead of time and learning all these new things at the same time.
Speaker 2:That's been a lot of growth for us, as these new things at the same time, that's been a lot of growth for us as a couple. We got the trailer. It seemed almost serendipitous. They had never cooked any meat in it, no oil had ever been cooked in it. They had only been serving baked goods out of it that had been baked somewhere else, and lemonade, wow yeah. And you got it wrapped. I mean it's brand new, beautiful.
Speaker 2:And then we took it down to Tupelo and had our friends at Fast Wraps wrap it in Tupelo, mississippi, which was fun, because when we didn't have the trailer, you get to take the Natchez Trace. Commercial trailers can't go on the Trace, which I understand, so at least half of the journey was very scenic and fun. I love being on the Natchez Trace and thinking about all the history that passed through there, so that was like a little mini trip in and of itself. Got the trailer wrapped and now we're ordering all our fast wraps. If you need anything, yeah, fast wraps. And then I've got them tagged on all our stuff. If you want to look at their stuff. I can send you their contact. So we got the trailer wrapped and we've got 12,000 straws that are not paper. That are not paper. Thank you, sitting ready to be used. Yeah, you know, ordering like forks and squeezy bottles.
Speaker 1:Things you don't think of right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my oatmeal bowl, my bowl to make my overnight oats, which if you have not seen the overnight oats, do yourself a favor. I'm really big on if I can make something ahead of time in a huge batch and it just get better. Yeah, so like soups and oats are like my big thing. Yeah, for preparing and this bowl that I got for my oatmeal, we joke and call it the satellite dish it's huge, it's huge so that's something I look forward to bring in.
Speaker 2:If you do follow smo on the socials, all of his recipes for the oats um that are online are going to be there available for you to try anything, guys, all the ingredients.
Speaker 2:So if you're not anything, that's what we we push, we want people, because creating food and making your meals is the most intimate thing other than a sexual relationship you can have, if you think about it, because it's what you're putting right in your mouth. You know, um, and so that we have just made it so casual and so let someone else you know so convenient, and a lot of the same ways that we have, uh, as a culture, um, watered down our, our significance of our intimacy in our relationships. The importance of our diet has completely been hijacked from us as far as that intimacy of it should be. Now I'll even get down to the point and this is a long-term goal with Smolicious, we want to be vertically integrated and start growing our own. That's great. I want to be SB Queen of the Greens.
Speaker 2:SB Queen of the Greens and us provide our own greens and produce to everyone. I just provide our own greens and produce to everyone and it's small steps because, like everybody knows, even though that probably was the design for us to cultivate and share for ourselves and create our own food for ourselves with the help of our creator, that we move so away from that and how our society operates now. So we try to do the best we can when we shop, to be intentional. Who we shop with, um always gratitude when you're, when you're purchasing, and we shop produce like everything that we buy is like living and alive. So other hands very much played a part in that being a part. The sun was there, the water was there, the elements were apart and I mean, granted, to an extent I guess, everything gets touched by it, but when it gets too far into a box that and chemical and all the other things.
Speaker 2:But um and I don't want to even get into the argument of the soil and the non-gmo and everything I know we're screwed like. I know, I know it's not good. I toured monsanto. I know I had to sign an NDA or NDA to go in there. Yeah, so if you have to sign an NDA to go in somewhere you know it's not good. There's probably something going on. You shouldn't be talking about it.
Speaker 2:So, and and from being from that perspective of um, being one that would just be all consuming, would eat anything that was in front of me and and didn't use any sort of discernment, now to be at the position that we shop with intention, we shop with gratitude. Um, we try to choose things, you know, because everybody's like it's so expensive to eat healthy. I, we, I'm one of the most frugal people we will ever meet.
Speaker 1:I will always try and save money and so that's just said that, because I was getting ready to talk about and we want our food yeah, food has to be affordable for people. They just don't know.
Speaker 2:They just don't know that, if you think about, it's really not that more expensive no, and let's look at what your quality of calories is that you're consuming and you're paying for. Because what's expensive? If it does absolutely nothing for you, who cares? If it was only 98 cents, that's 98 cents you could have applied to something that was good for you, exactly, you know. So we don't have a dollar menu approach. Things will all be adjusted, you know, as they would be at a price, but I will guarantee you that our smoothie is going to be incredibly more nutritious for you than the dunk and drink of the day.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about that. I mean, you're going to have fiber.
Speaker 2:You're going to have, you know, protein, a healthy fat, good complex carbohydrates to energize you through the day, no refined sugar, you know.
Speaker 2:So these are all things that we have found so much success with how we feel, and if you haven't seen the old episode, simone and I have lost over 300 pounds together and through this lifestyle, and we believe that the way we live has gotten us more in touch with our creator and more in touch with um.
Speaker 2:Our, our spirituality is so much more robust now, um, and we want to share that with people.
Speaker 2:We want to share people the message that you need to touch your food. You need to put that food, you know, in a position where it is a priority, that you are able to be grateful to its creation and all of its journey, that it took to get to you and what, in turn, you can do with the energy that that it took to get to you and what, in turn, you can do with the energy that it's going to provide to you, because we hope, by feeding good, that the consequences in the city will only be good. Yeah, because, you know, I've really believed that good begets more good, and and so I hope that, by giving people light, they will be spreading light, because we talked about it in the podcast last time like living living things show light and you know, when you're able to eat living foods, those living foods in turn are light for you to shine to other people. So that's that's our message, with small issues yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1:I love that because, like, I feel better when I sit outside in the sun, you like, I feel better when I sit outside in the sun, you know, I feel better when my bare feet are on the ground, you know and I'm not trying to sound like I'm a flower child, even though I've got things that say flower child on there um, oh, I am a flower because because I was kicked out of a garden.
Speaker 2:Heaven to me is getting back to a garden yeah yeah, exactly exactly heaven to me is getting back to being able to be what our creator intended. Your hands are supposed to be in the dirt.
Speaker 1:You're supposed to pray for the rain you know, and that is fully kind of getting back to that understanding that because I was going down the path and still, bad habits are hard to break, y'all.
Speaker 2:I still like look, I love cereal, that is my confession. I love cereal, that is my confession. I love cereal from a box like corn puffy who knows what this actually was?
Speaker 1:I love cereal, but you just make a choice, not to do it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, now.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to have a one-star. You have your fries once a year for your birthday. Y'all want to see a video. Man, you thought she found her lost child. I may cheat because we're going there for my sister's birthday Maybe like oh, it's my sister's birthday, Making a good choice.
Speaker 2:But this is coming from the girl that lived behind McDonald's parking lot. I ate french fries all day, every day, all the time.
Speaker 1:It's fun to have those moments of like a slip, but you don't stay in it. Most of it is good and that's why I tell people all the time get in the gym. If you don't go every day, just go some. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:And, speaking of French fries, like I steam potatoes and I eat my steamed potatoes and no, it is not a French fry but like I don't villainize potatoes anymore. But there was nothing wrong with the potato. It was that the potato was dunked in milk sugar and fried in beef tallow. It wasn't the potato's fault, it was the. That's what it is. Yeah, it's all the other nice stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, travis makes fun of me because I label read and I'll be in his food truck. He's like stop reading labels and I'm like, okay, sorry.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, if you want to ruin anyone's day, just pick up what's sitting in front of them and be like do you know how much sugar that is? Yeah, you want to keep drinking that. You want to keep drinking that. No, and like there's such a different dynamic in men and women because Smoke will straight up like shame people. And maybe that's just him. He's a food shamer, he is. He shames me all the time.
Speaker 1:He's like oh, cereal, we have all this oatmeal and you're going to have cereal. And I'm like, yes, well, he said on that podcast before I was like you know, it's hard to live in the south. He's like that is not an excuse.
Speaker 2:Oh, he will call you out so quick and then you know he's like notorious for being like, so where are you going to eat? Make good choices. Make good choices.
Speaker 1:Daddy Smoe, I love Daddy Smo, I love it.
Speaker 2:Papa Smo, make sure you go eat Papa Smo and you know, I think it was one of those things that, like you, can only sell so many Smo related t-shirts and so many keychains and so many this and so many that. And he is. He's always had food as a part of his brand. He always has, and even when we first got together, we were taking Mama Smo's recipe book and we were changing them to be more aligned to his lifestyle after his heart surgery. So, like on YouTube there's a video of him making Mama's Quick Chick for like a fraction of the calories with Greek yogurt and like more quality ingredients instead of the canned cream with chicken and all that stuff. So we had substituted Frosted Flakes instead of Ritz crackers. So there have been efforts the entire time I've known him, and even before that, with the meat mud and the smoke sauce and all those things that he's always tried to incorporate his love of food. That's awesome. Yeah, he was a chef at.
Speaker 2:Country awesome. Yeah, he was a chef at country club when he was a kid and did that for years, and then I my favorite job was fox's pizza den.
Speaker 1:I worked there when I was a senior in high school I loved fox's pizza. Got you some big gluten in that one. Oh man, they had these wedgies.
Speaker 2:They were like sandwiches. Oh my gosh, that's so good, yeah, and then, um, I worked at la siesta on church street, murphysboro. So, like I love the restaurant environment, I love food service. Um, so we're thrilled. This is like getting to be in like a concession stand. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1:I love it because it gives you a choice, like I mean, obviously I don't live where you live, but I would make that 40 minute drive to you because I want to try this stuff.
Speaker 2:And so many people want to see Smoe and they're like I want to see Smoe. Next time you're in town, come see Smoe. And Smoe has been so I mean, he's toured for so long. He's been incredibly available that it's on a calendar within months in advance where you're going to go. If you really wanted to see some more, you could. Now, I understand financially and work and all those things. However, now you know where we are all the time and if you are anywhere near Shelbyville, tennessee, shetville, if you're near Shetville, tennessee, come down the best way rent a home parking lot.
Speaker 2:Get you some If you're near Sheffield, tennessee, yeezy, yeah, come down the best way Rent a home Park a lot Get you some, and I'm just thankful because, like I'm local too, you know, my dad's side of the family is all from Sheffield and then I grew up in Murfreesboro, so to be somewhere where I'm going to get to see my people and my people can come see me and be. You know, because so often like the small, small as the artist, singing and things isn't always the most family friendly environment, depending on how your family is, you know, and so I can't exactly bring, like my nieces and nephews to come see us at work and so to have an opportunity that my family is going to be able to be a part of our business, you know, to come and see us and, um, help share our message and stuff.
Speaker 2:It's so great you know, and we feel like we're in total alignment, not to say that the things we sing about are not real. I don't want to discredit any of the things we've ever done or to say that what we're not, what we're writing, is not factual. It's all happened at some point. I may not have gotten up and done all those things this morning, but at some point in my life. Everything I've sang about I've done exactly, and I may not ever do them again.
Speaker 2:That's why I sang about it, because it was that memorable, exactly you know and and and so now to be in a position of like you can have a variety of things from us, because you can have different kinds of soups that you try, and there's four different salads, and then there's like six different smoothies, and I'm going to rotate the oats flavors every day. So it's going to be something new. Even if you're local and you're around all the time, there's going to be something different to try every time. So that's something that we hope to show people is that the way we eat is not boring, it's very affordable, it's easy to get variety and that when you eat better, you will feel better.
Speaker 1:That's the main thing, and so yo energy levels better.
Speaker 2:That is what we want everyone to experience and we talked about it last time that you get sick and tired of feeling sick and tired, and I'll tell you, this is like the altar call Come down at the end. This is your song, like it's time. If you don't feel good, we are going to offer something that may be an easier way to get started to feel better it tastes good and how to do it affordably.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you show them on the website, like go to the website and do it. I mean I'm going to go try it because I want to try it. Like I can't wait to try it. Like your soft opening, I can't wait to be a part of that. I'm so excited for the invite there. But but you know, it's like smoke. Smoke and and Sarah Beth, they are so two of the most genuine people and they are who they are and that's what I love about you guys, and you truly have a heart to serve others. You have a heart to serve your community. So when you both could have done a million things with your platform, you could be out on tours every night, if you want it to, with your talent but you chose not to.
Speaker 2:You chose to give back to your community. Well, and we we have been called. We have been called for something that, through serving others, is serving us greatly, because we're very alone in this lifestyle like we. You know it's very difficult to like just go out and so we really lack this sense of community and we're really striving to the people that are within our community, that live this lifestyle with us or that are interested in they would probably live like this but they feel so alone. We want to offer that chem folk feeling, uh, just through your lifestyle, it it I.
Speaker 2:It is the most bewildering experience to me the way people have been so hateful over something as small as changing your diet. You know, and and it is a big deal because you do eat all day and things but we're really trying to open. I especially pity the men, what the industry has done to trying to open. I especially pity the men what the industry has done to men and their masculinity and especially in the correlation of what they have to eat and how. You know that education is just. It's so sad that you know they've been pushed into this corner to believe they have to be a certain way to be a man, and I'm very thankful that my husband has been manly enough and brave enough to step up and say meat is what was killing my manliness, you know, and that terrible lifestyle and all the excessive oil and eating whatever you wanted to, because you're the man and you paid for it.
Speaker 2:You know he had to let go of a lot of arrogance and a lot of his ego that defined that and I feel like, has become a bigger man because of it, you know, and that ultimately, I feel like being able to share that healthy masculinity. We've just got so many examples of toxic, toxic masculinity. We're really striving to show, like, what a positive message of a balance of masculinity and femininity and how that partnership, um can really work as a force for good in the world. And and that's our vision for our food, you know, it's our vision for our music, for you to have a good time, you know and feel that in a good time, most of the music I've written has been for therapy for me, because I needed ball and chain was all about me. Yeah, that the message even is not something I even stand beside, but it was something that I had to get off my chest, that's you know?
Speaker 1:yeah, let's. If you haven't listened to that, let's. Let's talk about that real quick, I'm into ball and chain for a second, because that is about essentially. You listen to your like oh my god, she's talking about dating a married man.
Speaker 2:Yeah oh, when you hear that, when you hear it if you were to hear ball and chain without knowing me and without knowing the story, you would be like oh well, this is about celebrating adultery, um, and that's exactly the position it was written from. But it was not in celebration. I was very ashamed like that whole. I want more. Give me some more all that that got added in the in production, in in the studio, for the flair of the sound.
Speaker 2:What I really wanted was I wanted the wife in the position to play the role of wife, um, because I was being given the title of side piece, side girl, all those things, but I was not playing that role. There were so many assumptions that were made about me for my involvement in smo's life, and really what I was trying to do is to help the wife in the story heal herself. Yeah, um, and and through that and through that indignance to not in in her choice in that situation, ultimately Smo and I got together, but there was a chunk of time in our relationship that I thought I was going to forfeit being able to be with the man that I thought I really felt passionate that I was meant to be with, because it was not the right timing.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly.
Speaker 2:And and that song. I mean I remember the night I wrote that song, I stayed up way too late and I was very upset and it was. I was just very hurt because I felt like why on earth would God send me someone in a one a timing that he doesn't agree with you know, and and someone that it's just. It just seemed so apparent that we had so much chemistry and you know, now, being this far, and we had to wait to let Ball and Chain's been written since we met I mean, I met him in May and I had given him Ball and Chain by August. I had given him ball and chain by August and, um, even before we even had had any sort of real intimate relationship to speak of, as far as you know, in that regard, and and I was like this is how I feel, you know.
Speaker 2:And now, seeing all the things that have transpired through that, I wanted to wait for his girls to be grown. Um, cause, even though they know the story and they know the backstory, even more transpired through that. I wanted to wait for his girls to be grown Because, even though they know the story and they know the backstory even more than me, because they lived more of it even than I did. I just wanted to be respectful that they were at a grown enough age for, you know, this lady who plays the role of their stepmom to be singing something like this. You know, we had to live some life things for me to be able to tell my truth, and sometimes I think that's timing.
Speaker 1:I think that that is awesome that you wrote it like that, because, like I knew your story, so I knew exactly what you were saying, and so for somebody that, like you said, that doesn't know the story.
Speaker 1:that's why I wanted to talk about it today, because that's a story. Because that's a story I mean, that's y'all's story to tell privately, but you know what I mean. But that's something that so many people have found themselves in divorce. I've been divorced more than once, and so has Travis, and we're getting ready to get married and people can judge all they want to and say what they want to.
Speaker 1:They're like oh, they did this in that marriage and they did this in that marriage, and their ex did this and their ex did that, and yeah, we all bring our own baggage to every relationship?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I really I feel, and I know within my whole heart of hearts, that every lesson that I went through in those relationships, we get ahead of God sometimes and we pick things that maybe aren't, or in the moment or in our self, unhealed self, and we make an excuse and we bring our baggage and toxic stuff and they bring their baggage and toxic stuff and it just blows up. It doesn't work. And then you see these people, the same people that had a terrible toxic marriage happy, yeah, like my ex-husband's. Happy, I'm happy, yeah, that's a win. Yeah, does that mean that we're both bad people? No, yeah, does that mean that we're both bad people?
Speaker 1:No, no, do we both make mistakes?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it took us growing and healing our traumas to be able to find that, because I'm the happiest I've ever been.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Happiest you've ever been.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And it's okay to talk about the things that we're not proud of in life sometimes, because they happen, yeah, and they help make us who we are.
Speaker 2:Well, and it was such a weird experience to be in the position that I was in, like Smo was so public you know to be with somebody who's incredibly public to where you had a reality show at the time, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Because we met in between season one and season two. So you know, he was having to very much be married in a professional sense, but nobody knew what was going on. Professional sense because, yeah, and people didn't know what was going on behind closed doors and, um, you know, all of that's not really my story to tell, because it wasn't my experience other than being in the position of you know, there's like articles online about this other woman and like people were sending me stuff and they're like, are they talking about you? And just, you know, people saying they were gonna like post pictures of us at the grocery store, just weird stuff was happening and and I just am like I had been given this title, you know, and, and if you listen to the song, at the very end you'll hear that I'd been given this title. But you know, it really really was not the role I was playing.
Speaker 1:It wasn't, or you as a person. Yes, nothing near that.
Speaker 2:So one of the things that I have liked to say about Ball and Chain and whether it's timely or untimely because of the new Jolene release, I feel like Ball and Chain is like if Jolene had a chance to say her perspective. Yeah, and you know, unfortunately not every wife is Dolly, you know, and sometimes Jolene is not the bad guy uh, depending on what the circumstance is, and neither is the wife. But, um, in this scenario either, it's just some people aren't willing to change with others, and if you're with someone and you're making a big change and this is something Simone and I talk about all the time even with you know, our lifestyle change. When I met him, he had had heart surgery, and that's when I quit drinking, because he was sober and I very much felt like I could not be who I needed to be for him if I wasn't willing to do what the person before me wasn't willing to do either. And so, you know, if he's divorcing someone because of their lack of sobriety, then I'm going to have to make that choice if I want to be with this person. So, ultimately, his influence is what led me to quit drinking and it saved my life.
Speaker 2:Um, because I did, I. I drank a lot and, and had we met at any other time before that, before his heart surgery, we may have been each other's demise, you know, because of what our personalities and tendencies and habits were, you know. And so having ball and chain out as an opportunity for people to hear I'm finally speaking on it, because it is kind of like an elephant in the room when people are like what happened to the girl on the TV show, I'm like, well, I'm right here, I probably shouldn't talk about her, it's all in the book. But ultimately the TV show had run its course, smollett was done. That was all he wanted to do anyway, and a lot of people don't know this before the a and e show aired, they had already done a pilot and sizzle for vh1 and mtv. So you only saw two years of work, which actually took more like four years, and they had already done like two and a half years before that. So, like they as a family, by the time season two had come out, they had been filming for like six years that's crazy and we only got to see under two I'm making
Speaker 2:well, and I've got to see and hear the sizzle and pilot for vh1 and they they wanted the discord and the chaos and they were creating the turmoil.
Speaker 2:And they were creating turmoil in smo's relationship with his, with his you know partner at the time and and creating and so I cannot imagine and I have an incredible amount of compassion and sympathy for everybody that participated in that tv show, because I could not imagine what having onlookers in your home all the time, you know it, takes an incredible toll on someone you know and then living in the aftermath of having been recognized and having been so available. You know, I especially sympathize with the girls, with John's girls, you know, because to move on and live a normal life when people constantly remind you who you are and where you came from is probably difficult or what they are, who you were on tv, so who you should have grown up to be, you know. So, um, and and I sympathize with that so much because my dad's a minister, so, like, all I grew up with was people expecting me to be a certain way and ultimately feeling like I was constantly disappointing them because.
Speaker 2:I wasn't necessarily, you know, um, quiet and meek and mild, and you know I was pretty outgoing and opinionated and things, and the things that people love about me now have are also the things that other people hate about me and I'm aware of that, you know what people love, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:So, um, it's just something that I've tried to be incredibly humble with where I came into the, the position, so to speak, of um, what my place has been in the family, and the dynamic and, professionally, what I've come in on the tail end of things, and I really, really, really have only tried very hard to only wish grace and mercy and success to anyone that feels like I took their place, and I continually pray for people to find the help that they need and seek out their real truth so that they can live a good life for themselves, because, ultimately, being with Smo is not what makes me happy. Being with him is a very, very beautiful part. But he says something about love. I'm just a piece of the puzzle, because he knows how hard I've had to work to find that happiness in myself and the troubles I've had to go through and the struggles I've had to overcome just to even love myself enough to accept Smo's love. You know and he's watched all that happen on anybody, anybody today especially, but anybody that comes across this that thinks I have any ill will toward them.
Speaker 2:I'm wishing everyone to win, because everyone has a place to win, and if your opportunities have passed you by. That has happened to all of us. We can all sit back with regret and think about when we should have jumped at something that maybe we let pass us by, but I'm a firm believer, like we've talked about before, always dwelling on that stuff, you're missing the opportunities right in front of you, yeah, and if you're constantly thinking well, you know what could have been like, you're going to miss out on opportunities to do better tomorrow. That even goes with people and their diets. People have said me they're like well, I ate this this weekend, so I'm just gonna have pizza today.
Speaker 2:And I'm like well, don't start today yeah, don't don't keep a loss going with another loss.
Speaker 1:You know so, and it's like I heard this this morning too. I think god was preparing me for the news. I got my vehicle oh god I heard this this morning too, and it is so freaking true worry comes from living in the past. Anxiety comes from living in the future yeah, yeah and people that are depressed are constantly living in the past yeah you know, being we.
Speaker 2:we talked about this on the last episode because, yes, we have to be where our feet are and, and I would say I'm more distracted now than ever oh, God, I have my ADD, like I mean, look my phone and I know you like professionally, we've changed a lot of stuff recently and then you know like your kids are getting so big they are, your kids are getting so big that I know, I just know you're all over the place.
Speaker 1:I am, I am, and then you know, constantly managing work, making sure. I'm there for them, you know, trying to like launch your career so you're able to break the generational curse of. Well, you know what do you call it Generate? I want to give my family generation.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'm constantly at a battle with that and balance it. Balance. It's so hard sometimes and that's and that's where you know friendships come in and being around your people that are going to motivate you. Like Smo says, I know you can do. I know you can do better because that's one thing that, like me and Travis have like, I've had some hard conversations with him and he took it and not a way that I'm like you.
Speaker 1:I'd never would demand that man Cause I have so much respect for him. But I'm looking at him and he was like that man because I have so much respect for him. But I look at him and he was like when I he was complaining about something, he wouldn't care. He would tell you this too. And he was like man, this is this. I'm like what did you do? You could have done this, this and this, and you didn't do that and that's you know, you, you should have done it and he looked at me.
Speaker 1:He was like you're right and yeah, but the same as I would do that to him, he does that to me and hold, because that's what true relationships are, and to know that I love him enough and he loves me enough. That's not coming out of place of being ugly. That's coming out of place of saying I know you're better than this. I know you got more yeah, let's pull it up.
Speaker 2:Well, and constructive criticism is way different, you know, because you're trying to encourage ways, that and a lot of things that our partner does they're aware they're doing them.
Speaker 1:Like they know. They just need somebody to call them on it. Yeah, yeah, very much so In a loving way, in a loving way, in a very loving way, in a loving way A gentle reminder. Sometimes, yeah, yeah, yeah, sometimes it's swift kicking the pants. Sometimes it's swift kicking the pants, Depending on what time of month it is we might be a little bit of a get out of here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's okay, that's all men and women in the world today. Oh, and you know, if you really want to get to know your partner, like start a business together?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we have like all these Be in a confined space. Yeah, put yourself in a trailer together. And we have a lot of things that we like test people. Like if you want to get married, you should do this first. Like, one of our things is grow a garden together, because we learned a lot when we had to or when we chose to. We didn't have to, but we did. We had a garden during the pandemic and I mean we were like out there, like it was our lives.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it was really how we were dealing with not knowing how to deal with what all we were dealing with, with not knowing how to deal with what all we were dealing with. Uh, you know, but you learn a lot from your partner when you're like tilling and weeding and toting heavy stuff and slinging straw and all that, and so manual labor I really encourage doing with your partner and um, I, I really, I really think this being able to have this entrepreneurship together as a couple- you're building something together.
Speaker 2:We're very excited that this is something that we're building together. Uh, you know, because even the music stuff it's so much still of like him and then I'm coming up and so to a degree, it still has to stay separate at some point. You know, um, but smallicious is ours, like this is our, this is our creation and this is our hard work and our experience. You know, I would say, even more than just a food trailer, it's an experience, um, smos got plans for a little workout circuit to set out while you wait, if you get stuck in a position where you have to wait for us to make you something, um, and we've got all the information available. So, if you have not ever taken the time to just go to the website, go to the website.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about how they can find you, because, before you wrap this up, I want them to know how they can find you on social and how they can find this food truck Awesome.
Speaker 2:So wwwtherealbigsmocom is the ultimate. And everybody online makes fun of me for always saying the www, but TheRealBigSmocom is the ultimate and everybody online makes fun of me for always saying the www, but I think that's the best part of having a com.
Speaker 2:I like it. Wwwtherealbigsmocom. There you go. So we have the e-zines that are on there. If you've seen those, we have Smo e-zine 1. It's the healthy zine, and then we have the e-zine 2. So it's kind of like how the journey started and into the refinements, and it's a pdf file you can download. We have our grocery shopping list on there. We have soups, smoothies, salads. I mean literally anything that we make is on the website they don't keep it a secret.
Speaker 2:We don't please don't put it. Um, the only few things that haven't made it on there from the trailer, just things that we haven't made the recipe like. We've just been too busy to put it on the website. But it's not for lack of not wanting to disclose, I just haven't got around to it yet. Um, and then, uh, on socials on Facebook and on Instagram you can find the real big smoke is the real big smoke, and then I am. I am SB the queen on Instagram and then on Facebook, it I am SB the queen on Instagram and then on Facebook it's SB the queen. But if you go to this most page, you'll eventually find me linked to it. Um, if you're having a hard time finding me, uh, sb the queen. But now if you're on Spotify, you know I've got over 11,000 monthly listeners. So to know that this time last year I had zero girl, I mean like listeners, is great.
Speaker 2:It's so weird.
Speaker 1:It's so weird.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm proud of you Because I remember when I saw it, it was like you have two monthly listeners. I was like I want to find those two people and hug them, but I think it was me and Smo. Oh my gosh, when we did the wrapped artist. This is so funny. So you do the Spotify wrapped at the end of the year, you know, and it's like this is your top artist.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Smo and I both got Smo. That's awesome, because that's how we rehearse is from the live set list. We have the set list on Spotify. Yeah, we just rehearse from that. And so it was like, hey, there are Kim Vogue, thanks for listening. I was like, oh my goodness, I'm the number one fan. I was my number two rep, so. But you know, it's cool to get to see what other people see when you're on the creation side. I know you do a lot of content creation, and to be in the film production side and then see what the finished product comes out is like.
Speaker 1:It does. It's so cool and people don't understand. I know I keep watching. I karate chop this microphone Like in the last episode I kept smacking it, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Obviously Hope I've grown in my media experience you have. Josh would be so glad to have you, thank you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, josh would be so proud of us. We haven't derailed too much today.
Speaker 2:That's good. I'm proud of it. I love that we never have a topic that we we don't really have to stick to anything, we don't? This is like when you give people their ADD to stream yes, we're going to let these people, this neurodivergence take over.
Speaker 1:Travis is going to come into his show and be like I have no more storage. What did y'all do? What did you do? But I love it.
Speaker 1:But now a little combo, exactly, but I but I love that, though, like I love people that are getting out and they're doing things like a year ago, today, you said yes to your calling, which was a big dream of yours. People say a big hairy dream. That was. That was a big hairy dream. That takes a lot of guts to get out there and be like I'm going to do it and there's so many people that like it, besides a couple of the haters who cares? Who cares? There's going to be haters everywhere.
Speaker 2:Okay, this is what's perplexing to me, and I don't know if this is just things I think about because my circumstance is slightly different than other people's and you understand, because Travis is out there and people recognize him and stuff. But say, for instance, if my husband were a plumber and he was just posting about how much he loved his wife, would someone get on there and be like I only want you to be a plumber and only talk about plumbing things and I don't want to see this wife crap anymore. Yeah, like it's just so bewildering that it's like and what was crazy is the person that said they didn't want to see the SB crap anymore. He was sharing Nitty Gritty's post. I just happened to be on it, I wasn't even. Yeah, so it's like oh my goodness, like this discouraging, like this want to discourage people to inspire others is so strange that you would want to be that hindrance.
Speaker 1:I think it comes from them being so unhealed, Like the health stuff you're making them look in the mirror to see that they're not healthy.
Speaker 2:If I could tell you how many men come back from, because Smo, talking about calling people out, he got some hate not too terribly long ago and it like struck a nerve because it was like way too personal and very incorrect that he found this man's contact information, because he too has a food trailer and of course his business is on his Facebook. So he just called him because if you're going to have your phone number on the Internet, people can call you. And so Smo called him and he was like do you know who this is? And so Smo called him and he was like do you know who this is? And the guy was like oh, you know, because if you've ever heard my husband talk, you'll know it when you hear him again, you know, and and the guy.
Speaker 2:He admitted he was having a bad day. He said I woke up on the wrong side of bed and I saw what you're posting and it just made me mad and so I took it out on you and the guy apologized. He publicly went on Facebook and apologized. I mean I I will say nine times out of 10, when there is a hater and smoke goes directly to the hater and talks to them they apologize and say they were having a bad day.
Speaker 1:See it's behind those keyboard warriors, man Like.
Speaker 2:That's why we have to not act out of emotion Like and this is why we have to start sharing the message of like, positive energy of like. If you are feeling a need to project something angry and ugly onto someone else, that's a direct reflection of what's inside of you. That fire is not lit or it does, it does or is lit and is out of control.
Speaker 1:I've got, I've got this girl stalker girl that has made this fake facebook. You have a stalker?
Speaker 1:well, it's that, well, she, she internet stalks me, obviously but she trolls it's so funny because, like everybody like I've ever dated, I'm like, hey, you're gonna get a message from this person when we go public. Or like I work, I'm like, hey, you're probably gonna get a message from this person, blah, blah, blah. And it's never failed. Same crap every time. Like you know, she's been divorced and blah, blah, blah, blah and talking bad about me, and I'm like, oh my God, it's become comical. So when I told Travis, I was like, hey, it's going to happen soon, and she messaged the show page and stuff and it's so funny. Like I think that that means that you made it in life. You know, you got your stalkers right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got a couple of stalkers. Yeah, I made it.
Speaker 1:You know what it is, though I think I'm well. I know enough that I probably could took legal action if I wanted to, but I haven't at this time, because it's just why.
Speaker 2:Well, and if you know who the person is, you typically can come from a place of empathy and compassion to understand what's driving them to have these behaviors.
Speaker 2:If you, I behaviors, um, if you, I mean if you are healed and healthy you will be so other people's intentions and motivations become so much more obvious, exactly, and the red flags fly so much they do, uh, stronger. And and I think I think it is this constant Smo doesn't want, he doesn't want to quit touring, because I think ultimately it doesn't want to feel like he quit doing something that he loves. But talking about these kind of instances and encounters with people, the false intimacy that people will project on you in social settings, especially with his persona, I feel sorry for him.
Speaker 1:He's a very strong man.
Speaker 2:He's incredibly strong. Like right before I went on stage in Florida, a lady said to me I just want you to remember SB the Queen. You may be his wife, but he's my husband and I was like what, I don't even understand how that works. Works, I'll send you a tab if you do. You get weekends like how was that, you know? But but also that, like I also am very compassionate and empathetic to john can make you feel like the only person in the room.
Speaker 2:Um, that's one of the things that I love so much about being his wife, but that's also one of the things that, being his wife, I'm very cautious of and watch him, not because of him but because of other people mistake his big giving, heart and kindness as attraction and he he gets so bumfuzzled that he doesn't understand some of these ladies misinterpreting his affections. Yeah, and he's coming from a completely platonic, kind affectionate place and it's being malperceived or misinterpreted as some different level of intimacy and the projection of the false intimacy that gets put on him and the sexual harassment. And the projection of the false intimacy that gets put on him and the sexual harassment. I mean there are stuff that women do to my husband that if men were doing to me yeah, and I'm not even trying to be like me to equality. I don't even want to get into these kind of talks.
Speaker 2:But, ladies, some of what some of our behavior is foul, or like feeling like you should get to touch someone or feeling like you should say things to or do gestures, like there were gestures done to us at this show that I was like ma'am, watch yourself. Because if there was a man on the front row doing that, security would have come and got him, you know. So so there, there are some things that I've had to witness as a woman that I'm not necessarily proud of how other women behave, to witness as a woman that I'm not necessarily proud of how other women behave, um, and not even necessarily towards me, like, but treating my husband as this object and things, and, and I understand, like ultimately some people, that's the whole goal of things. But Simone never wanted to be a sex symbol, you know, like that was never on his, that was never on his radar to to be in that position.
Speaker 2:So I'm really hoping stepping into this food trailer thing will be something for him to be able to shine in a way that people haven't got to experience him. I've been very fortunate. You said you saw him on the Juicy's thing. You know that was a year ago, so he's got a whole year worth of kitchen time. He's been doing that. He's ready and we're ready for you all to come out and just experience what we've been getting to live for the past. You know past year, especially in preparation for this.
Speaker 1:So that's awesome. Well, let's not make it a year before we come back again, because I definitely we could talk oh my goodness, we would have a weekly segment, we could talk all day like maybe you can come set up one day at the trailer.
Speaker 2:We'll just have like an outside podcast thing we would do it, and I'll just talk about the food and that's the fun thing that, you know, art and food can go so well together and these community things can go so well together. We have so many big dreams for what we want to do with this and it's not isolated to just soup, salads and smoothies. There's a lot of speaking opportunities and education opportunities and you know, we're going to have some friends of ours come and showcase their own music to keep people company while they're, you know, enjoying their food. So this, this collaborative networking energy that we're experiencing from offering something different than music, you know, exclusively, I'm really hoping is going to be a really positive impact on the city I love it.
Speaker 1:I can't wait. I can't wait to see y'all there. Well, guys, you know how to follow them. Thank you so much for coming today. Thanks for having me again.
Speaker 2:Thanks for having me again, thanks for having me again.
Speaker 1:Yeah guys, remix, yes, remix so definitely give them a follow, please. I can't wait. Thank you so much. Just think about the bigger things that are going to happen next year. I had a ring in my finger I didn't have before. Oh yo yeah. I almost forgot to give a shout out to that Travis will meet me.
Speaker 2:That's so funny because I even thought on the way over here is. I was like, oh my gosh, you're engaged now I'm engaged.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're painting. We're painting rooms right now. Let's get serious permanent.
Speaker 2:Baby, if you don't make me paint some, it better last we're painting room furniture and all the things that looks like a bombing off of everything I'm so proud of you, I appreciate that. I'm so excited to see what y'all have and I love seeing that, um, so many of the parallels in our relationship of like really trying to, you know, lean into that that content creation and showcasing your love for each other to everyone, because you can be very inspiring when you model good love for other people.
Speaker 1:I think so I think people need to see that it's okay for men to love and women to love and let their guard down because there's so many. That's a show we're going to do. We went to do before we forgot. It just hit me Feminine energy and masculine energy, for men and female, both.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I think that having that spouse that lets you do that both ways, I think that's amazing.
Speaker 2:Thank you, and I think us using our opportunities to showcase that for other people. I think that that's our responsibility. I think God has called us to share our message, and so I'm thankful he's brought people in our path that helped make that possible. So thank you for having me, thanks for coming guys.
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Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, did it run out of time? It did.
Speaker 1:It did.